a lot of people, john boehner came out and said, we open the door, he's willing to work on the grand bargain. bob woodward wrote a whole book about this and how far that boehner was willing to go and not telling his top surrogates how far he was willing to go, meaning raising taxes. did i -- i didn't hear one republican house member running on the idea of race raising taxes or a grand bargain. what would the response be from ann coulter? [chuckles] >> i don't think republicans are that stupid, although pat caddell is always calling us the stupid party. running as democrat-lite is not going to work. i will give-- >>> what if he goes along with simpson-bowles for the good of the country because we are headed to tax-magedon. >> simpson-bowles would be better than anything obama can come up with. we may not like it. >> sean: they always say there will be tax reform. all tax reform is sneaky way of raising taxes. that's what it will be. >> which produces less revenue to the government. no, republicans in congress, look, they have to hold the line, not give the store away. what they should